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October 27, 2012 at 9:56 pm #5245
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Member #58This is going to be a bit of a long story, because I’m using my recent experiences to build up to the point of my question(s).
So, I’m 23, and recently, I fell for a girl I work with (we’re just two part timers at a dinky little retail store). I have zero dating experience, because I don’t really become attracted to very many girls, but we seemed to hit it off better than I’ve ever hit it off with a girl before.
I asked her out, and she explained that she’s had bad experiences dating coworkers in the past. I was ready to back off right then and there, but she said she would give it some thought. I didn’t see her again for a couple weeks, and we had a super cool conversation about it which ultimately resulted in her turning me down due to being preoccupied with finishing school in December.
I was pretty let down inside, because I like(d) her a lot, and I’ve gone back and forth on having lingering thoughts on whether or not we could potentially try again after she finishes school, though we never discussed the issue further. I expected that things would be awkward between us for a little while, but surprisingly that wasn’t the case, and we immediately got back into the nice little dynamic we had before. I’ll admit, she is still in the back of my mind, but I understand nothing will ever come of it.
What I’m “confused” about boils down to the differences between reading whether a girl is being friendly, or if she’s interested in more. I know every girl is different, but I always hear little generalities, like, they’ll try to spend more time with you, they’ll make little excuses to touch you, etc. But I have this stuff with the girl I’ve been interested in lately, and that doesn’t seem to mean anything because she’s obviously not attracted to me, right?
For example, yesterday, towards the end of the day, I was stuck on front end, and when things had quieted down, she came and sat down on the desk by me and we chatted a bit (though it got cut short after we were interrupted). Then today, the store was fairly dead, and the manager was super lenient about us just doing whatever; I was walking down an aisle, and she had come from the other direction, and we made a joke as we were passing each other. I was just going to keep walking, but she sat down on one of the displays in the aisle, and started chatting with me, so I stopped and hung out for a while. She kinda tagged along with me (and/ or invited me to tag along with her) as we walked around the store, tidying up and trying to keep busy. Heck, she’s even done the whole “touching” thing before; she’s done silly little things to me in the past that I never thought much of, and today, she randomly brushed something off my shoulder, for example.
So, I don’t know, in general, I just don’t get it. I don’t really have this kind of dynamic with other girls I know, which is why it stood out to me, but obviously it doesn’t mean anything if she doesn’t want to go out with me. I don’t feel like she’s “leading me on”, or anything silly like that, and I enjoy the friendship that we do have, but it just makes me wonder, how do I decipher from “friendliness” and “attraction”? I know I apparently got it wrong this time, but I don’t want to find myself falling into that “trap” again, yanno?
October 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm #24620
April Masini, your AskAprilKeymasterThe difference between friendliness and attraction is that if a woman is friendly towards you, that’s all she wants (friendship). If she’s attracted to you, she’s interested in more. It’s really that simple. My advice is that you ask her out again. It seems like you’re still interested in her, and she’s definitely at least friendly towards you, and her feelings may have changed — but you won’t know unless you give it a try and invite her on a date. Rejection is a small possible price to pay for giving it another shot and possibly winning.
You should buy and read Date Out of Your League, a book I wrote for men, that goes into a lot more detail about women, their body language and how to know what they’re thinking, than I can give you here on this forum. Here’s the link for the book:
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[url][/url] [/b] October 28, 2012 at 4:51 pm #25436indestructible
Member #58I’d be lying if I said I haven’t thought about asking her out again when she finishes school in December, but I think chances are slim to none that she’d say yes. She’s given me no indication that she’d be interested in seeing where things are after school is over, so I have no good reason things would go differently. I am kinda hoping maybe she’ll bring it up again when school is over, but I doubt that she will. I dunno, I don’t want her to think poorly of me, I don’t want to be the guy she had to say no to twice, or whatever. I dunno. I just wish there were an easy way to talk about it again with her, but it hasn’t come up since, and its been close to two months since she said no.
November 3, 2012 at 9:13 am #24913indestructible
Member #58Is it… wrong that I still continue to look at the little things she says and does towards me? Like, for example, last weekend when we were on lunch break together… We were talking about something or other, and I stated my opinion, and in a weird sort of way, she told me that she had always said the exact same thing, like, word for word. She had also asked this one older guy we work with to bring her a little of some pasta dish he had made for his wife, and after she warmed it up, she grabbed me a fork, too, and insisted I try some with her.
Then, last night, I went out for the first time to a tavern with three of my coworkers, which included this girl, another girl we work with, and the aforementioned older guy. The other girl was talking about something her boyfriend did that annoyed her a bit, and the girl I like looked at me and said “Don’t ever do that”. Later on, she was really trying to get me to do shots with her and the other girl (especially when she found out I’d never done shots before), but I didn’t do it because I’m still a bit of a “lightweight” when it comes to alcohol; they didn’t end up doing shots, for whatever reason, though.
Ugh. I hate that I’m having so much trouble getting over her… v_v We just seem so good together, and I’ve never met a girl I’ve been so “good” with. What a sucky feeling…
November 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm #24961
April Masini, your AskAprilKeymaster[quote]Is it… wrong that I still continue to look at the little things she says and does towards me?[/quote] No… there’s nothing wrong with looking at little things she says and does, but it is wrong to obsess and stop the rest of your life in order to focus on your interactions with her, since you’re not dating, and she’s told you she’s not interested until December. You mentioned that you’re having so much trouble getting over her — but there’s not really anything to get over. The two of you are co-workers. You never dated, and she’s not interested right now.
😕 My advice is to look elsewhere for someone to date.😉 If you find someone who DOES want to date you now, you’ll be a lot happier.🙂 [b]Everyone likes to be liked! If the advice you found on AskApril.com was helpful “like” us on FB — and tell a friend!
[url][/url] [/b] November 13, 2025 at 7:53 pm #48252
Ethan MoralesMember #382,560She gave you a clear boundary, she didn’t want to date because of school. That’s not a maybe; that’s a “not now.” And “not now” often means “not ever.” If someone truly wants you, they’ll find time, even when life’s busy. So, take her words at face value, she likes you as a person, but not romantically.
Don’t confuse chemistry with compatibility. You two click that’s obvious. You enjoy each other’s company, share jokes, and she’s comfortable around you. That comfort can look like attraction because it feels easy. But ease doesn’t automatically mean desire. Sometimes, a woman enjoys a safe, fun dynamic without wanting to take it further.
The touches, the talking, the time spent yeah, they can mess with your head. But friendly people do those things, too. She probably sees you as someone she trusts, maybe even her favourite coworker. It’s not fake it’s just not romantic. Don’t let friendly gestures convince you there’s more when she’s already told you there isn’t.
If you ask her out again, do it because you can handle another “no”. Not because you’re hoping her mind’s changed. If she says yes, cool you’ll know. If she says no again, it’s closure, and you can finally stop wondering. But sitting in limbo, dissecting every laugh and brush of her hand, that’s mental quicksand.
You’re right to want to learn how to read signals better. The key isn’t spotting attraction it’s noticing effort. If someone’s attracted, they’ll invest. They’ll initiate conversations, make time for you, ask personal questions, flirt openly, and follow through. If it’s just you analysing her every move, then you’re doing all the work.
don’t romanticise “what could be.” You’re not wrong for liking her, but you’ll hurt yourself waiting for a maybe. Keep being friendly, but start mentally detaching. Channel that interest into someone new someone who flirts back and means it. You’ll know the difference when it happens, trust me.
November 13, 2025 at 7:55 pm #48253
Ethan MoralesMember #382,560She gave you a clear boundary, she didn’t want to date because of school. That’s not a maybe; that’s a “not now.” And “not now” often means “not ever.” If someone truly wants you, they’ll find time, even when life’s busy. So, take her words at face value, she likes you as a person, but not romantically.
Don’t confuse chemistry with compatibility. You two click that’s obvious. You enjoy each other’s company, share jokes, and she’s comfortable around you. That comfort can look like attraction because it feels easy. But ease doesn’t automatically mean desire. Sometimes, a woman enjoys a safe, fun dynamic without wanting to take it further.
The touches, the talking, the time spent yeah, they can mess with your head. But friendly people do those things, too. She probably sees you as someone she trusts, maybe even her favourite coworker. It’s not fake it’s just not romantic. Don’t let friendly gestures convince you there’s more when she’s already told you there isn’t.
If you ask her out again, do it because you can handle another “no”. Not because you’re hoping her mind’s changed. If she says yes, cool you’ll know. If she says no again, it’s closure, and you can finally stop wondering. But sitting in limbo, dissecting every laugh and brush of her hand, that’s mental quicksand.
You’re right to want to learn how to read signals better. The key isn’t spotting attraction it’s noticing effort. If someone’s attracted, they’ll invest. They’ll initiate conversations, make time for you, ask personal questions, flirt openly, and follow through. If it’s just you analysing her every move, then you’re doing all the work.
don’t romanticise “what could be.” You’re not wrong for liking her, but you’ll hurt yourself waiting for a maybe. Keep being friendly, but start mentally detaching. Channel that interest into someone new someone who flirts back and means it. You’ll know the difference when it happens, trust me.
November 29, 2025 at 9:33 am #49304
TaraMember #382,680she likes you as a friend, and nothing in her behavior changes that. She’s comfortable with you. She enjoys your company. She flirts just enough to make work fun. But none of that means attraction — it just means you’re safe, easy, and non-threatening. Women do this all the time with guys they have zero intention of dating. And your problem isn’t that you “misread signs.” Your problem is that you’re using friendliness as evidence of romantic interest because you want it to mean something.
She already gave you her answer: no. Not “no for now.” Not “no because of school.” Not “maybe later.” Just no. If she wanted you, she wouldn’t need a calendar to approve her feelings. Women don’t turn down a guy they genuinely want because of finals. They make it work. Distance, timing, work none of that stops a woman who’s actually into someone.
The touching? That’s comfort.
The hanging around you? That’s familiarity.
The jokes and lingering conversations? That’s chemistry as friends, not chemistry that leads anywhere.You’re trying to find a formula for reading women when the simple rule is this: If she wants you, you’ll know. If you’re unsure, she doesn’t.
December 4, 2025 at 11:27 am #49661
SallyMember #382,674When you like someone, every tiny moment feels like a clue the lingering conversations, the brushing something off your shoulder, the way she sticks close when she doesn’t have to. It’s easy to think, okay, maybe she feels it too. I’ve been there, hanging on to every little sign because the connection felt different from anything else.
Here’s the quiet truth though: some people are just naturally warm. They treat you like their safe person at work, they joke, they lean in, they make you feel seen… but it doesn’t always mean they want something romantic. It just means they like being around you.
And honestly? Her turning you down wasn’t about you. It was about her life, her past, her timing. If she wanted to leave that door open, she would’ve said so.
You didn’t misread everything you just hoped the friendliness meant more. That’s human. And you’ll figure out the difference with time, not rules.
For now, enjoy what you have with her without looking for signs. It’ll feel a lot easier that way.December 9, 2025 at 10:50 pm #50137
Natalie NoahMember #382,516It seems like a very common situation where emotions and reality are out of alignment. The first thing to recognize is that the feelings being described are real there’s a genuine connection, enjoyment of time together, and attraction from one side but the other person has clearly set a boundary due to timing and circumstances. She has made it clear that dating isn’t on the table right now because of school and past experiences with coworkers, which is important to respect. Feeling disappointed, confused, or even obsessed with the little things she does is understandable, but those actions, while friendly and playful, don’t indicate a change in her interest level toward romance at this point.
It’s also important to separate friendliness from attraction. Just because someone touches you lightly, jokes with you, or wants to spend time together doesn’t mean romantic interest is present. In this case, her behavior could simply be reflecting comfort, camaraderie, or genuine friendship. The danger lies in over-interpreting signals and creating hope where there isn’t a promise of something more. This is why the advice to step back, avoid obsessing, and focus on other opportunities is so key. Observing her actions is fine, but it shouldn’t dominate your thoughts or decision-making.
Another factor is that the situation involves a workplace. That adds complexity because professional boundaries exist, and pursuing someone at work especially after being told no can create tension or awkwardness. It’s easy to fall into the trap of imagining “what could be” instead of accepting reality. Her explicit boundaries must be the guide, even if it’s frustrating, because respecting them preserves both personal dignity and professional decorum.
The lingering thoughts about a potential future date after school are natural, but they’re speculative and uncertain. Hoping for a change in her feelings without any communication is risky it can lead to prolonged disappointment and emotional stagnation. Instead, it’s healthier to acknowledge the reality: she’s not available now, and no amount of analyzing small gestures will change that. Redirecting energy toward people who are available and interested will provide real opportunities for connection and growth.
The repeated emphasis from April about moving on and looking elsewhere is crucial. There’s nothing wrong with noticing the little things she does, but when those observations dominate your emotions or actions, it can become counterproductive. Focus on building confidence, meeting new people, and developing relationships where interest is mutual. This approach allows you to respect her boundaries while still pursuing your own romantic life, rather than becoming stuck in a cycle of unreciprocated hope.
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